My guest today is Fabrice Grinda, co-founder of FJ Labs and one of the most prolific angel investors, with +1,100 investments and key bets like Airbnb, Alibaba, and Flexport.
Prior to FJ Labs, Fabrice built multiple companies including Zingy, which he scaled from near bankruptcy into a $200M exit, and OLX, which he grew to 300M users across +40 countries, before it was acquired by Naspers.
Today he runs FJ Labs as an âangel investor at venture scale,â evaluating hundreds of deals a week and backing 150â200 startups a year with a fast, founder-friendly process.
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đ Show notes:
[01:00] â Why being a public company CEO stopped being interesting
[22:00] â Will AI kill marketplaces? The real impact on e-commerce
[27:00] âThe next big play: buying offline businesses and 10xâing them with AI
[33:00] â The trillion-dollar opportunity in B2B digitization
[49:00] â Do AI startups really need less capital?
đ§ Key Takeaways
#1 Stop Chasing âSuccessâ If You Hate Your Tuesdays
Fabrice built a massive company, reached financial freedom, and won his market, yet felt miserable. He realized success isnât about scale or recognition, but whether your daily work energizes you. His âlife auditâ forces founders to ask: Do I still enjoy the work this success demands? If not, the business isnât the problem, the role is.
#2 Why AIâs Biggest Wins Will Come From Unsexy B2B Workflows
Fabrice argues the real AI gold mine isnât in flashy verticals but in the offline, analog processes that run the global economy. Factories, suppliers, logistics, marketplaces, and procurement still rely on emails, spreadsheets, and phone calls. AI will create the most value by modernizing these slow, invisible workflows, not by reinventing consumer apps.
#3 Donât Compete in âThe Game of Kingsâ: Play a Vertical You Can Actually Win
Founders outside Silicon Valley shouldnât compete with OpenAI, or Google on foundational models, they lack capital, talent, and infrastructure. The winnable path is going deep in a specific vertical, owning its workflows, and using AI to make them better. Investors should avoid infrastructure fantasies and back applied-AI companies with real customers and real problems.
#4 AI Wonât Kill MarketplacesâBecause Shopping Is Human, Not Logical
Fabrice argues GPT wonât replace ecommerce because people donât just search, they browse, discover, and entertain themselves. And the messy backend of fulfillment, payments, and logistics is something AI wonât own. Marketplaces arenât dying; theyâre getting augmented.
đ˛You wonât hear this anywhere else
âMost investors think of AI as a race to replace human labor, but the reality on the ground looks very different. When I look at how companies are deploying AI, I donât see mass layoffs. I see teams hiring even more engineers to build better products, faster. Technology has always made work cheaper and more efficient, yet historically it has created more jobs, not fewer.
The real value isnât in removing people, but in reshaping roles: AI handles the diagnosis, the doctor provides empathy; AI delivers the lesson, the teacher becomes a guide. The shift will be profound, but it will unfold far more slowly than people expect and its ultimate impact will be far greater than we imagine.â










